. >> the debate that you moderated between president obama and governor romney. 97% of small businesses are spared with a $250,000 limit in terms of tax increases. what we're talking about are people making a lot of money, lawyers and investment bankers and those who are in subchapter s corporations on who can pay more for goodness sakes. if it means moving the economy forward. it's time to take these old arguments and set them over here and talk about a new day, a new approach. that's what the election is all about. >> senator durbin, congressman price, thank you both for joining us this morning. appreciate it. >> thanks, candy. >> thank you. >>> next, he was chairman of mitt romney's hispanic steering committee, but carlos gutierrez has some tough talk for his party when it comes to immigration reform. >> if we get it wrong, shame on us. there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it raises your testosterone levels, and... is concentrated,